Anyone but England

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By JaneyGodley

Sunday 13 June, 2010

Anyone but England… is the latest press barrage being foisted on the Scots during this World Cup mania. Apparently there are groups of Scots selling tee shirts with ABE on it to show that, during the football matches, the Scottish will scream on any team that opposes England.

 

Back in February police visited an Aberdeen sportswear shop to warn staff that any tee shirt bearing the ABE slogan could be seen as racist and that only increased the sales of the garment.

 

Some Scottish people were resentful that our team never made it into the competition and therefore take great delight in baiting the English by supporting teams who may kick them out of the World Cup. I see it as mild friendly rivalry, but some people do take it too far.

 

Hamish Husband, of the Association of Tartan Army Clubs, is a Carlisle United supporter who has lived in England for much of his life and insists that football rivalries between national squads are no different from those displayed by fans of club sides:

 

"England and Scotland first played each other in 1872 - it's the oldest international football rivalry in the world," he says. "There's nothing political about it all.

 

"The overwhelming majority of the Tartan Army has absolutely no animosity towards England fans as people. It's no different from Liverpool fans wanting Manchester United to lose in Europe."

 

Scot tennis ace Andy Murray made a football faux pas back in 2006 when asked whom he would support in the World Cup since Scotland hadn’t qualified (again) and he said, “Anyone but England,” and he suffered greatly at Wimbledon as the crowd chanted against him. It was a PR disaster. Even though he retracted his statement and said it was a joke taken out of context, he did have a lot of backtracking to do.

 

Last week I got a call from a journalist asking me how I felt about the chocolate Mars Bar being swathed in a St George’s flag - Did it bother me? - as apparently it was a slow news week and they assumed Scots would refuse to eat it if it was representing England, despite the fact they are made in England!

 

I laughed at the ridiculousness of the question; he was asking the wrong woman. I am a chocolate-eating monster. A Mars Bar could be covered in a picture of Osama bin Laden and I would still chomp it down.

 

The truth is there is a relatively small number of Welsh, Irish and Scots who do harbour grief against England and the best way to display that is when they get to laugh at the English team when they get beaten at big events.

 

Dr Martin Johnes, a history lecturer at Swansea University, has studied anti-Englishness among football fans in Wales. He believes ABE is generally far rarer among supporters of the Welsh national team than among fans of club sides like Cardiff and Swansea, who play in English leagues, or rugby fans, who see their sporting rivalry with England as one of equals.

 

But he says media coverage of international football can turn otherwise-harmonious neighbours against each other:

 

"I have to say, it does wind you up when you switch on the TV and hear about 'England expects' and 1966," he says. "Over the course of the tournament, I suspect more people will end up ABE than at the start”.

 

The Scottish people shouldn’t bear animosity towards our English neighbours. It is a petty damned attitude and the anti-Englishness feeling bothers me. It can be bordering on racist, especially when the press and media keep baiting angry Scots to say it on the telly.

 

At the end of the day Scottish people aren’t anti-English, otherwise TV shows like Coronation Street, Emmerdale and Only Fools and Horses wouldn’t be so popular north of the border.

 

This basic rivalry can be down to a class issue and a North/South divide. The Northerners of England are by their own nature almost Scottish and have a rage against the ‘Southern softies’ as they call them.

 

One of the issues that inflames the anti-English feeling is the media coverage and attitude of their sports commentators. They go out with deep self-belief and over-confident swagger, whereas the Scots have a more humble attitude towards their expectations. Whenever we do actually qualify for a World Cup tournament, we sing songs that emulate disappointment and hope!

 

I listened to the commentators today who were saying phrases like: “When England get into the semi-finals, I hope Capello picks the right team.” I laughed out loud: they haven’t even kicked a ball and right away they are assuming they will be in the semis! This is what annoys some people.

 

Personally, I hope England have a cracking time in South Africa. I hope they have something to replace 1966. I want football to unite people not divide them as I have witnessed first hand what sectarianism in football can do to a community and, in comparison, ABE is nothing but a mild irritated rash.

 

As we say in Scotland: “Do your best and come home safe.”

Comments

Vickie in london  23 months ago

Love your article! Esp the part about the chocolate!

Jeanne Andrew  23 months ago

Likes this.

Nadine Brown 23 months ago

Great column In New Zealand you can buy a T Shirt that t says "I support two teams the All Blacks and any one playing Australia" so does that mean we Kiwis are picking on the Aussies no its called rivery and all it happens all over the world.Those Poms as we say in New Zealand should suck it up and take it as its given with a sense of humour.

Laura Cassap  23 months ago

Great read Janey and totally right, the friendly rivally of real fans is part of the what is essentially just a game

Bannatynes  23 months ago

Nice article, but as an ex-English man, re-born Scotsman, I have to say I hate the English hype. Drives me nuts

Shirley Doig  23 months ago

Great article Janey. I'm with you and hope England do well (even though I hate football). I have English family and friends...

Iain_Gray 23 months ago

Great article - captures a lot of my own thoughts - the World cup should unite people as you say

Graham Stirling  23 months ago

Excellent excellent column. Sums up my feelings as a London-dwelling Scot.

Becca 23 months ago

While I am an 'ABE' I have nothing against English people. My annoyance is borne out of media arrogance more than anything. My 8yr old nephew actually asked me the other if anyone else had won the world cup because all he was hearing about was 1966!!! (maybe we should talk about 1967 when Scotland beat England at wembley...). After the game last night, while pundits were having their post match discussion, they started talking about how they'd be playing Serbia in the next round! Confidence is good. Assuming that you're going to make the next round as group winners after drawing your opening game is not. This is why I'll be cheering on Algeria and then Slovenia ( and possibly Serbia!!)

Rosemarie V. 23 months ago

Football uniting people?Dream on!Football is WAR!In a short period of time and contained and controlled,but still war.

There have been wars between England and Scotland in the past,now there's football.

Sarah Trollope  23 months ago

All you Scots are just spiteful people

Paulscot 23 months ago

I do not dislike English people. I do however detest English nationalism, in fact nationalism of any description, as nationalism is usually just an excuse for bigotry.

The rivalry between England and Scotland is no different than that between teams such as Rangers and Celtic, Liverpool and Everton, or the two Manchester teams. Where it all goes too far in the case of international matches, is where national pride in your team spills over and becomes nationalism (whether Scottish or English). The over-hyping (by the mainly England based media) of pride in their national teams, quickly transforms and becomes nationalism. The overplaying of a event from almost 50 years ago is what provides the tipping point to upset most Scots, as it reeks of nationalism, rather than pride in a past event. Throw in the "2 world wars and 1 world cup" chant so beloved by English fans that makes me and many others sick, and causes the hatred of nationalism, spill over into dislike for the national team.

As a Scot I feel we travel in hope, and are thankful for whatever our teams achieve. The English seem to travel in expectation, and when they fail to win, they look to blame, rather than be thankful for what they have actually achieved.

Last night I was torn who to support. I love many of both American and English people, but detest the the jingoistic nationalism for which both nations are renowned.

karen 23 months ago

Saw a guy wearing a bright green shamrock covered tee shirt stating "Anyone but the French"

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Shinkicker Level 4 Commenter 23 months ago

Great Hub Janey

Right-minded people take it in good-natured fun. A small minority would spread hate over a game of carpet-bowls because they're just nasty people.

Can't believe the ABE t-shirts might be seen as racist.

After all it's only directed at a football team not a race of people

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